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« on: January 01, 2010, 10:33:06 AM »

I cannot verify whether this document is authentic or not, so make up your own mind.


here is a translation:

Re: Response to a letter number [redacted] written on the 5th of Dey (December 26th).

Salam Aleykom

With respect, we would like to inform you of the inspection, check up and preparation of the aircraft, destination Russia, for the purpose of transporting the Supreme Leader, his esteemed family and various officials of the Revolutionary Guards. Should the commanding forces lose control, direct your attention to the attached permit, number [redacted] of the National Security Agency and the Bureau of Revolutionary Guard’s Intelligence Security in order for the necessary steps to be taken.

Va al-salam

Office of the high assembly of the Islamic Republic’s national security

Commander, Brigadier-General, Revolutionary Guard

Stamped by Secretary General of the High Assembly of the Islamic Republic’s National Security

Stamped by Dr. Saeed Jalili

CC: [redacted]
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2010, 08:29:35 PM »

Khamenei starts to more and more behave like Shah...and he will probally have the same destiny

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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 07:53:33 PM »

Not sure if Russia would be a safe heaven for them, these guys will kill a lot of people (the opposition) before they give up power, the Shah wasn't as brutal as IRI, he never killed demonstrators in the manner IRI have killed people
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2010, 08:38:22 PM »

Not sure if Russia would be a safe heaven for them, these guys will kill a lot of people (the opposition) before they give up power, the Shah wasn't as brutal as IRI, he never killed demonstrators in the manner IRI have killed people
Shah killed also uge amount of people...after 1953 Putsch they weekly shoot down huge number of political prisoners and anounce it in radio to scare people...also during during the years between 1953 and 1979 lot of people tortured and killed in Shah's jail...and during revolution different sources guess that 10'000-15'000 people were killed and around 50'000-65'000 people got injured... just need to remind you the blood bath of meydane Jaleh

I think it will be dangerous to try justify Shah in comparasion to IRI....IRANIAN population don't want any royal or islamis dictatorship...therefore we shouldn't justify one form of dictatorship, since there is a big danger that foreign power would try to use the chaos to once again trick our population.... in 1953 and 1979 IRANIAN population wanted changes, but each time some wrong leaders took advantage of situation...enough is enough...this time IRANIANS want democracy, no Kings, no velayate Faghih and no general........ population want democracy, and they also do't want ny foreign powers to take advntage of the situation...I think and I hope that today Iranians remember the experiences of 1953 and 1979 movement and only would accept a democracy and no other tricks
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2010, 10:23:18 PM »

There is no chance of Monarchy returning to Iran, the people of Iran would not accept it any more, it has to be a Republic but a Democratic Republic and a secular system.

The Shah was brutal also, I agree with ali_europe, but the current situation is different from 1979, I was in Tehran in 1978/79 and attended a lot of demonstrations (I was 14/15), what I see on utube somehow scares me more than what I saw in 1978/79 did, this is somehow different, in 79 the civil war lasted some 48 hours, if the opposition take up arm now then the fighting will go on a hell of a lot longer, could be months, the Basij and Pasdars will not surrender the way the Shah's Army did, only Shah's personal guard (Javidan) fought to the end, the others changed side, this will not happen today, Ahmadinejad does have a lot of supporters whether we like it or not, they might not be in the majority but they are brutal and heavily armed.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2010, 10:55:12 AM »

There is no chance of Monarchy returning to Iran, the people of Iran would not accept it any more, it has to be a Republic but a Democratic Republic and a secular system.

The Shah was brutal also, I agree with ali_europe, but the current situation is different from 1979, I was in Tehran in 1978/79 and attended a lot of demonstrations (I was 14/15), what I see on utube somehow scares me more than what I saw in 1978/79 did, this is somehow different, in 79 the civil war lasted some 48 hours, if the opposition take up arm now then the fighting will go on a hell of a lot longer, could be months, the Basij and Pasdars will not surrender the way the Shah's Army did, only Shah's personal guard (Javidan) fought to the end, the others changed side, this will not happen today, Ahmadinejad does have a lot of supporters whether we like it or not, they might not be in the majority but they are brutal and heavily armed.
Afshin jan I absolutly agree that today conditions are different than 79 revolution...IRAN has today 78 million population..and unlike Shah which was fully dependend on foreign powers IRI has a base of conservative supporters among revolution guards but also among 4-5 million IRANIANS (Bazar, religious families, etc)
that's why it is very important for the opposition movement to keep continuing with pressure on governments for more freedom and democracy but at same time keep the movement united and not allow any slogans which would create tensions between different part of reformers...

For example now would be really not smart if for example Kurds or Sistanis would just start with the anti-Persian slogans or if the liberals and leftwings would attack islam as a religion.... I think right now all those who want changes must stay united and keep the pressure on IRI and focus on freedom and democracy issue, till IRI would be forced to go some steps back...... at same time that would keep a door open for those members of pasdaran or religious people, who would be ready to talk and accept to allow the demonstrators to talk on major questions in public and find a peacefull solution

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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2010, 11:52:27 AM »

Spot on ali_europe jaan, very well said in my opinion, I like your opinion on the way forward in your second paragraph, I don not believe Iran can afford a civil war, that's how the Shah was toppled in the end, we cannot afford that today, casualties would be in the hundreds of thousands and maybe millions if an armed confrontation drags on for months, the country would be destroyed, so your solution is the best way forward; do not insult Ayatollah Khomeini or Imam Khomeini as they call him in Iran, they need to stay focused on the main objective and force the Government into reform. Ethnic minorities in Iran should also be responsible as you said and no talk of forming new countries, I hope that will never happen but we'll see.
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