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« on: March 02, 2010, 10:30:39 AM »

I see lot of optimism, energy and Love for freedom and democracy in today's IRAN youth...at same time all IRANIANS should watch that the movement wouldn't be swith to wrong direction....

It would be sad, if once again some foreign forces or some royalists or any pro US groups would benefit from situation and IRAN once again would change from one dictatorship to another... that's why I think right now following things are very very important..also any type of crapy separation ideas should be stoped before they would find followers...there is no time for tensions between FARS, Arab, KURD, Azeri etc... those type of tensions would only be good for our enemies

A) keeping united, we should not unnecessary create devisions among Zardoshti, Muslims or other religions or ethnics inside IRAN..the goal should be a 100% democratic society, if there are some mullahs who accept this idea, let them also be a part of the movements..it isn't now a smart move to attacck or insult someone just cuz he is muslim or celebrate some islamic traditions...we should criticize and attack dictatorship and lack of freedom and human rights, but we should not attack islam or any other religion

B) We shouldn't forget our histroy, lot of young IRANIANS might easy be influenced by some colourfull pictures of L.A based IRANAN TV's....but IRANIAN youth must be informed good about our past histroy...from amir Kabi, Colonel Pesian, satar khan to Dr. Mossadegh and 1979 revolution...IRAN was always one step before democracy, but always some evil forces from outside and inside took advantage of the chaotic conditions.......once again,to IRANIAN youth, fight for democracy and freedom, but don't trust USA and WEST....USA and their allies never wanted democracy in IRAN...they just hope to weaken IRAN to control and dominate middle east...so we should be very carefull to not let America to try just bring back another SHAH... of course we want to finish IRI's dictatorship, but we shouldn't open our country' once again to pro american groups like Royalists and Neoliberals.... that would just end up like the orange revolution in Ukraine, after 2-3 years poverty and unemployment would just grow and IRI could even come back to power

C) we shouldn't create tensions between us and our neighbouring countries...populations of IRAN, Arab countries, Turkey, Pakistan,etc all share the same long them interessts of independency and democracy in this region...A) we all need democacy, that mean all mullahs, sheicks, kings etc must be replaced by democratic governemtn B) we must kick out USA and their allies from this region...
people of the region must decide on what to do with middle eastern oil and other recources not American companies.....

D) in long therm all ethnics inside IRAN from armenians to kurds, from arans to Azeris, from Lurs to Belutschi should have more power...we need federal structures, to guarantee a stable IRAN but at same time to allow differnt region to have more to say...those times that a king or mullah from Tehran decide every thing in the country should be definitly over....

LEt us all support united the green movements and hope this time IRAN would finally be able to continue the road which the great legend of our histroy Dr. Mossadegh wanted to start
     
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2010, 11:36:39 AM »

Most important we should not be hoodwinked by IRI apologists, MKO agents and fascists who come into these forums to spew their poison.

You talk about democracy but democracy as described by you. Democracy is a non event and a meaningless word used by dictatators and future murderers to gain power and implement their evil and nefarious schemes. Tell me what is the meaning of democracy? eh? WHAT? Can you describe it? Can you define it? The word itself is by definition contradictory.

You talk of the evils of the West yet you live in Western Europe, take all their benefits and call them names. You call west all the names you can think of in various forums but try and advance a western imposed system on Iran.

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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2010, 11:39:40 AM »

I wonder if Hitler would also be The Great Hitler had he been overthrown and not given power.

Mob rule, thats what it was, exactly the same as IRI (let those with insight understand the reference)
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2010, 12:14:46 PM »

Most important we should not be hoodwinked by IRI apologists, MKO agents and fascists who come into these forums to spew their poison.

You talk about democracy but democracy as described by you. Democracy is a non event and a meaningless word used by dictatators and future murderers to gain power and implement their evil and nefarious schemes. Tell me what is the meaning of democracy? eh? WHAT? Can you describe it? Can you define it? The word itself is by definition contradictory.

You talk of the evils of the West yet you live in Western Europe, take all their benefits and call them names. You call west all the names you can think of in various forums but try and advance a western imposed system on Iran.


if I criticize WEST, it doesn't mean that I would say every person in WEST is an evil.. I mean we IRANIANS also criticize Shah or IRI, but those bad governmetns don't mean all IRANIANS would be bad.... what I'm accusing are those part of WESTERN society specially USA, UK and some other NATO countries who want to control the recources of the world including oil and gas, by again and again influencing the development in our region.....there never was any iranian troops invading USA or UK...but those nations specially USA and UK again and again influence political developments in third world to prevent democracy in third world, cuz they know a real democracy in third world would mean that population of third world countries would decide about oil, gas, steel, gold  etc and not any corrupted king or army general and their american supporters.... I mean just look around and you'll see USA, UK etc.. again and again were responsible for government changes in third world...IRAN 1953, chile 1973, etc... are just few examples....
the fact I moved to WEST has different reasons(education, and later founding a family here etc....and by the way I live in Switzerland, which isn't even a NATO coutnry) but as an IRANIAN who observes IRAN and international politics for long time, I just want to warn about dangers of potential mistakes...I'm very proud and excited about the new energy and fresh views of young IRANIANS who impressing the world by their fight for democracy in IRAN today, but at same time I want to warn the young people to keep their eyes open and not repeat mistakes which happened in 1953 and 1979.... both times in early 1950's and during 1979 IRAN was extremly close to change to a democratic modern county, but each time evil forces weather from inside or from outside destroyed the democracy.......

with global changes and growing importance of ASIA and potential cooperation between Europe and Asia, countries like China, India, Russia, IRAN or Turkey will have key positions and challenge the american global domination, thats why USA and UK want to do every thing to prevent strong nations in EUROASIA ...... 

of course americans know they can't invade IRAN with troops, but they have lot of tricks which could create troubles...creating devision among IRANIANS or financing separatist groups or supporting some pro WESTERN elements among IRANIANS like royalists etc.... combination of american strategies could have a bad impact on the movements....that's why the green movement should of course continue their fight against IRI's dictatorship but at same time being carefull about any changes in american strategy.....

as I said before we must learn from our histroy...each time IRANIANS wanted democracy and freedom, but each time there was a big disapointment because the movements went to wrong direction or people gave up to fast to defend their rights..... that's why today our eyes must be fully open to not get tricked again
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