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« on: May 16, 2008, 11:01:21 AM »

IS OBAMA a rescuer? A real changer?
Well, of course these days for lot of young people he might represent the new nice face of America!
BUT!!!!!!
Let me remind you on few things!
J.F.Kennedy was once celebrated as the big changer….did you know he started the Vietnam war?
Bill Clinton began his first presidency with the image of a changer! Somalia and Balkan Operation were both during his presidency! AND during his presidency USA still supported Taliban

Well, to understand this you may not forget that the president in USA is just a figure…. The real power is in the hand of some big lobbies…actually the big battle  between Republican and democrats is more a fight of which Lobbies would this time be stronger

A)   Ok, every body know that Weapon industry and oil lobby is mostly behind republicans! they usually tend to support cruel dictators in third world to keep US control over third world recources …if you look at the list of companies which supported Bush you will find lot of known companies as Halliburton, Exxon, Lockheed Martin ,etc…
B)   Some other companies which are not so strongly involved in oil and weapon business more want to dominate the world trade by keeping to force third world countries to open their markets to western products. Which means asking dictators in third world to open their market for expensive western products at same time the resources of those countries mostly been imported to west damn cheap…so in long therm rich countries  could get fatter and richer while in lot of parts of world kids have not even a piece of bread to eat…These neoliberal companies tend to sometimes support the republicans and sometimes the democrats! It means if USA is strong enough to go and bomb other nations and change governments, they would support republicans that but if they feel US strategy would fail and they doubt if US army is strong enough to keep the control, than they would switch to support democrats to get their goals by using a nicer face of USA… so through world bank and other global finance institutions the control over world economy just continues.....just with smiling face instead of bombs
But no matter if democrats or republicans come on power… the major part of politics wouldn't change much…
Both side will keep the unfair world trade conditions
Both side would support putting embargos on nations which aren't ready to follow orders from Washington
    Both side will try to weaken stronger independent nations like Russia, China,  Iran by supporting independent movements inside those countries as past again and again showed
And since USA any way dominate the global media it is so easy for them to create huge public propaganda against countries like IRAN, Venezuela, China etc…..
But in last few years a new phenomenon is breaking US domination in world!

New economical powers are coming, China, India, Russia and soon Iran etc will weaken US economical power…at same time the strong growing of Asia's importance is making Europeans slowly switch to more focus on euroasian trade than Atlantic trade….

All these challenges will make Americans facing huge problems, that's why now USA will try every thing to keep their influence….
Since the tank and bomb policy failed ….now it looks like they need a young smiling face to give USA the nice image of neo liberal managers who would come to help you (of course by fully opening your market to their products and keep their market close to third world countries products by lot of taxes etc)
New US strategy might be to keep third world poor by showing them a smily face instead of bombers….. some naïve people in third world might be attracted to the nice face for a short periode…. But the major problems between West and third world will not be solved, no matter if we have Obama or Clinton

We would only have a real change if USA would be ready to go back behind their boarders… that means
A)   closing all US army bases around the globne
B)   USA should stop supporting all these dictators and sheicks
C)   USA and West would stop controlling the recources of the world through al these institutions like World Bank etc

If  you think democrats would do that??? Than my answer is just keep dreaming
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 12:36:57 PM »

Mr Mubarak Obama (to use his real Muslim name) isnothing but what the rednecks call a good white man's nigger (no offense intended from my part). Do you really think they would let him get anywhere if he was not a 'white man's nigger'? He is the good boy that will do what he is told and know his place amongs his masters.

Hillary is what America needed, but ofcourse what do you expect form a low life, low intellect average American hillbilly and those low life immigrants that have been licking US's backside.
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 12:41:11 PM »

ali_europe, welcome to PFC and it is a pleasure to have you here. We hope to have a long and pleasant association.

One point I like to make is please give the source and link to the article you post. Due to copyright laws which we like to abide by (unlike other disreputable sites), we will be forced to remove the post if full credits to the publishing source is not given.

Cheers and keep up the posting.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2008, 01:59:59 PM »

ali_europe, welcome to PFC and it is a pleasure to have you here. We hope to have a long and pleasant association.

One point I like to make is please give the source and link to the article you post. Due to copyright laws which we like to abide by (unlike other disreputable sites), we will be forced to remove the post if full credits to the publishing source is not given.

Cheers and keep up the posting.
salam and thanks for your kind words! but don't worry! this article doesn't have any copyright problem...it was written by myself during my lunch break today while eating a pizza Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 02:04:21 PM »

Mr Mubarak Obama (to use his real Muslim name) isnothing but what the rednecks call a good white man's nigger (no offense intended from my part). Do you really think they would let him get anywhere if he was not a 'white man's nigger'? He is the good boy that will do what he is told and know his place amongs his masters.

Hillary is what America needed, but ofcourse what do you expect form a low life, low intellect average American hillbilly and those low life immigrants that have been licking US's backside.

Hillary isn't any better....she is just a career and power hungry bitch with lot of connections to zionist lobby... just let me tell you one thing...if someone would really be a changer and would change US imperial politics, he would never make it to become a candidate... if Obama really would be a changer and really would want to revolutionize USA, he would very fast disapear....

you could observe that during the first round of election as candidates like Ron Paul talked about closing US army bases all around the globe, their speaking times on TV got shorter and shorter...although even Ron Paul wasn't a revolutionizer, but just few points of his program which were against the system was enought to isolate him every where in the US media

what America needs is to accept to give up their role as a new colonial imperial power....and that would be a painfull process....america would become a normal country like Italy ...I don't know if all those L.A millionairs could accept that.... although it will soon or later happen...as longer as they would wait with the real change, as more painfull it would becoeme at the end.... America needs someone like Gorbatchev...to end the imperial system and make a new start as it happens to soviets....I have huge doubts democrats would be ready for that
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 02:08:26 PM »

ali_europe, welcome to PFC and it is a pleasure to have you here. We hope to have a long and pleasant association.

One point I like to make is please give the source and link to the article you post. Due to copyright laws which we like to abide by (unlike other disreputable sites), we will be forced to remove the post if full credits to the publishing source is not given.

Cheers and keep up the posting.
salam and thanks for your kind words! but don't worry! this article doesn't have any copyright problem...it was written by myself during my lunch break today while eating a pizza Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 05:59:32 PM »

ali Europe jan...
well said. I can just talk about the Pa and its residents, as far as I know...and they won't go for him...right or wrong, we have still the red necks and racists here in USA. They cannot see a black man as president...take a look a West Va. and how they voted for H.Clinton???  Roll Eyes

The other issue is...I, personally do not believe that he really can CHANGE...anything. Politics is always politics and nothing will change, the only issue is...sometimes OIL people and sometimes, Pharmasuticalllllll and so on will be in the helm. I can say from our state, if Obama is the nominee....Pa will go to Republicans....although Pa was one of the smart state last time not to vote to G.W. Wink

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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2008, 02:33:58 AM »

i am voting for Obama simply because he is better than the other two candidates that's it!

I don't really but any politicians slogan when they promise change....change happens through time not with an election.
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2008, 07:24:24 PM »

it seems Obama will be the candidate...see whom will be the running mate??

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 09:59:20 AM »

Mr Mubarak Obama (to use his real Muslim name) isnothing but what the rednecks call a good white man's nigger (no offense intended from my part). Do you really think they would let him get anywhere if he was not a 'white man's nigger'? He is the good boy that will do what he is told and know his place amongs his masters.

Hillary is what America needed, but ofcourse what do you expect form a low life, low intellect average American hillbilly and those low life immigrants that have been licking US's backside.


WOW Branko jaan, it seemed that you had your facts backwards there, the well educated actually voted for him and the "low life, low intellect average American hillbilly and those low life immigrants that have been licking US's backside." have been supporting her Wink
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