Interview with George Galloway on GAZA

[ali_europe]

very good interview

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/LXXHwm7RuGU&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/LXXHwm7RuGU&rel=1</a>

[BrankoWasTheBEST]

George Galloway. Yes he supported Saddam and called him the best world leader or words to that effect. He supports Ahmadinejad and therefore supporters of IRI whether openly or behind the scenes would support Mr Galloway. He was even thrown out of the labour party because of his attitude.

Mr Galloway can rant what he wants, he is a discredited self serving terrorrist loving murderer supporting piece of nothing.

[ali_europe]

George Galloway. Yes he supported Saddam and called him the best world leader or words to that effect. He supports Ahmadinejad and therefore supporters of IRI whether openly or behind the scenes would support Mr Galloway. He was even thrown out of the labour party because of his attitude.

Mr Galloway can rant what he wants, he is a discredited self serving terrorrist loving murderer supporting piece of nothing.

Galloway is right in therm of international relation and political logic....SADDAM or ahmadinejad migth be good or bad for their own people, but that doesn't allow UK or ENGLAND or any body else to run a war and invade and bomb middle eastern countries .............his points on ISRAEL are fully correct... the issue isn't if HAMAS people are nice or fanatic, the issue is ISRAEL is keeping a country occupied since 60 years and made 3 million people to refugees and still get WESTERN support by their crimes against inocent people....if HAMAS people are nice or fanatic is a domestic palestinian issue.....

what would we IRANIANS do if USA would invade IRAN and take over all provinces and force all IRANIANS to move out to neighbouring countries...and after years of war at the end americans would say, we will give you Sistan and Baluchestan and you should be greatfull and if IRANIANS would want to fight, the western world bomb Sistan and call IRANIAN terrorists and accusing them of being against peace

I often wonder how lot of IRANIAN in WEST believe the crappy logic of western media.........

I mean Palestinians are getting killed over 60 years and they have been forced to leave their houses to create space from jews from Europe and USA....and you have the nerve to call them terrorists?

[BrankoWasTheBEST]

They are a victim of their own so called leaders. If they want peace, then they should stop their terrorrist activities and kill Israeli school children. They should stop using their own women and children as shield and use schools and hospitals to fire rockets to attract Israeli retaliation.

Hey, just like bullies they are getting back a taste of their own medicine and the sooner they understand that the only option they have is to negotiate a peaceful solution the sooner they will be free of their own fanataical and blood thirsty leaders and IRI supporters.

Typical blind hatred of Jewish people by muslims.

Tell me mr IRI supporter, where was Israel before the second world war when the muslims hailed Hitler asd God's dagger to eliminate Jews? eh? Where was Israel then?

I'll tell you, there was no Israel and they needed their own land stolen and occupied by muslim Arabs. They needed their own country to be free of oppression from people like IRI supporters hiding behind words such as democracy and peace. Democracy IRI style.

[aliirooni]

My store is close to Camp Pedelton the biggest military camp in west coast. Many of my customers are from the base and one of my customers is a retired military intelligence officer who was on active duty until Clinton era.

He believes that this was all in plan for Israel and Israel basically put a trap for Hamas and the idiots fell for it.
Basically this is what he says. He said the plan was to attack Iran. But Bush administration's hands were tied in Iraq and they could not afford another war. Not to mention Iran is a much stronger country that Iraq and it would be harder for US to invade Iran. Also Bush administration told Israel that would not support a war or any air strike against Iran when Israel wanted to attack Iran. Even former US UN ambassador Bolton who had said that Israel would attack Iran, said that the war with Iran was not an option any more.

So since Israel could not get any support to attack Iran, they decided to cut Iran's influence and effectiveness by attacking Hamas but in order to do that they had to make sure they had an excuse. So they didn't renew their truce with Hamas  put Gaza under blockage and Hamas rulers were stupid enough to fall for it and start throwing their home made rockets into southern Israel. That was enough excuse for Israel to start a war with Hamas and kill as many of them as possible. Of course Israel has no regards for any Palestinians life so many civilians are dying here too.


This is one of the most complete and well analyzed professional openions I have heard so far and since it comes from an ex-military intelligent officer, I think it holds water.

[BrankoWasTheBEST]

alirooni jan, you are fully aware of my sentiments and how I feel about the whole situation, but atleast you have made an attempt to analyse and give a logical presentation of what is happening rather than just blind hatred and ranting of a lunatic that so many other people seem to do.

i still say that even during the so called truce, Hamas was firing rockets and Israel held itself back. So in effect they kept their side of the bargain but once the official truce was over, they made their move. Very unlike Hamas whose aim is the total destruction of Israel.

Israel is here to stay. Its going nowhere. IRI and Hamas have to live with thatfact so their only option is peaceful coexistance with mutual respect. Hamas and akhoonds just create hatred to hold onto power and loot their own people.

[ali_europe]

They are a victim of their own so called leaders. If they want peace, then they should stop their terrorrist activities and kill Israeli school children. They should stop using their own women and children as shield and use schools and hospitals to fire rockets to attract Israeli retaliation.

Hey, just like bullies they are getting back a taste of their own medicine and the sooner they understand that the only option they have is to negotiate a peaceful solution the sooner they will be free of their own fanataical and blood thirsty leaders and IRI supporters.

Typical blind hatred of Jewish people by muslims.

Tell me mr IRI supporter, where was Israel before the second world war when the muslims hailed Hitler asd God's dagger to eliminate Jews? eh? Where was Israel then?

I'll tell you, there was no Israel and they needed their own land stolen and occupied by muslim Arabs. They needed their own country to be free of oppression from people like IRI supporters hiding behind words such as democracy and peace. Democracy IRI style.


They are a victim of their own so called leaders. If they want peace, then they should stop their terrorrist activities and kill Israeli school children. They should stop using their own women and children as shield and use schools and hospitals to fire rockets to attract Israeli retaliation.

Hey, just like bullies they are getting back a taste of their own medicine and the sooner they understand that the only option they have is to negotiate a peaceful solution the sooner they will be free of their own fanataical and blood thirsty leaders and IRI supporters.

Typical blind hatred of Jewish people by muslims.

Tell me mr IRI supporter, where was Israel before the second world war when the muslims hailed Hitler asd God's dagger to eliminate Jews? eh? Where was Israel then?

I'll tell you, there was no Israel and they needed their own land stolen and occupied by muslim Arabs. They needed their own country to be free of oppression from people like IRI supporters hiding behind words such as democracy and peace. Democracy IRI style.

Mr Brancowasthebest, first of all please learn to discuss in a mature way, learn to bring facts instead of accusing me to be MR IRI supporter…I’m really tired of the low level in lot of IRANIAN forums, where people just attack others by calling them IRI agents or whatever else instead of answering with facts…. I don’t know how old you are, but if you ask around and talk with some older respected members like Afshin they will tell you, that I’m not an IRI agent or something

But let go back to facts!
Nobody ever said Ahmadinejad or Hamas leaders would be saints, but we are not talking about domestic issues among IRANIANS or Palestinians, we are talking about an invasion……..
Israel keep forcing Palestinians to leaving their lands to create more space for more and more Jewish settlers from Europe and USA
Few ISRAELI government leaders since Golda Mair times till some of today’s ISRAELI government members again and again said, Arab citizens of Israel should think about moving out of ISRAEL, so there would be more space for the new coming jews…. Israeli law give an automat right to every jew no matter from which part of World to move to ISRAEL….this people need land and water sources, so since 60 years Israelis are trying every thing to force Palestinians to leave…

They have used different tricks
-   Terrorizing Palestinians and scare them…in early 40’s and 50’s even some later Israeli politicians like Isac Shamir or Mosche dayan were member of Zionist terror squadrons, which terrorized Palestinian villages

-   Destroying their houses by changing living zones to farming or other zones, so suddenly Palestinian houses become illegal

-   Blocking Palestinian zones and cutting them from world by preventing food or medication get to them (some Palestinians pregnant women even couldn’t go to hospitals cuz Israelis suddenly were deciding to close checkpoints
Fact are very similar, USA and UK are since 1940’s using Israel as a military base to create tension in the region, since 1950’s again and again USA and UK have influenced the development of our region
-   1953 they destroyed the first real democracy in middle east by the military putsch vs Dr. Mossadegh
-   In mid 1950’s they started a war with Egypt to prevent nationalization of Suez Channel
-   Since 1950’s till today USA and their allies keep supporting dictators and prevent any democratization in the region

-   We had since 1979 again and again wars in region and in almost al of them foreign powers were involved weather directly or indirectly

-   Israel is getting armed and financed by foreign forces to keep the region instable( and we all know Israel can only survive as long as this western support continues)

-   Even extreme religious fanatism is a result of foreign powers actions in the region, USA destroyed democracies in the region and CIA again and again financed different fanatic movements like Al Qaida

-   IRI could never be born, if Mossadegh and other democratic leaders wouldn’t be stoped by WEST

Bur back to Palestinian case… there country is occupied, 3 million Palestinian refugees are living in crapy conditions in Jordan or other arab countries and Israel don’t allow them to ever go back… Israel is even not ready to go back to 1967 boarders(although even that would be unfair)
Today Israel tries to use strong pressure to Palestinians to make them agree to accept the conditions and being happy of just happing a small useless desert region… and if some Palestinians would use violence cuz of desperation and hopeless situation, Israel and Western emdia call them terrorist…

Is it ironic if an Palestinian blow himself and kill 2 or 3 Israelis, western media call him a terrorist, but an Israeli piloit who bomb hospitals and schools is called a defender of natural right of ISRAEL to exist….

How would you as IRANIAN feel, if another nation would occupy IRAN and kick all IRANIANS out of their town and villages and after 60 years tell to IRANIANS: we are ready to give you a small part of Kavire Lut to build your nation and you should be gratefull and accept it and sign a peace contract with us….and if IRANIANS would attack those invaders to defend their right, world media would call IRANIANS terrorists
I myself often criticize Ahmadinejad, IRI or HAMAS, when it comes to human rights issues or democratical principals, but when it comes to rights of people of the region vs aggressive foreign powers, I would be on the side of people of the region…..
If Ahmadineajd or HAMAS are good and bad for the own people, will be a domestic issue of IRANIANS or Palestinians, but when foreign powers and their puppets like Israel attack people of the region no matter if in Palestina or IRAQ or IRAN, I will always be on side of people of the region….
This region can only become a democracy, if Persians, Arabs, Turks etc  together would start to know who their real enemies are……
This region only will become a democracy one day if
a)   Foreign powers and their puppets would be kick out of the region (some fight might be necessary) and this will happen in coming years…US empire is weakening and the hate against USA and Israel is growing in the region
b)   If people of region can decide what will happen to oil money and not any US companies or sheicks and kings
c)   If countries of the region start to work in partnership and defend the region themselves and kick all foreign troops out of region
If these things happen than in long therm  wealth and more education will weaken traditionalism and turn this region step by step to a democracy

[ali_europe]

Israel in its today form can only survive cuz of huge financial and military support of USA....since USA is about to lose their global dominance and US ecconomy will get weaker and weaker in coming years, so Zionists will face huge problems....