I knew the Shah - Documentary from Aljazeera (Video)

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PART 1:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/VcBbG-y-Jho&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/VcBbG-y-Jho&rel=1</a>

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PART 2:

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[BrankoWasTheBEST]

The Shah's critics say that SAVAk killed 1000 in 37 years. That is way exaggerated by them although I'd say it was nearer to 100, but what about the great IRI that replaced it and has its supporters even on these forums? They have averaged 500,000 murders since their thefet of the country. Those dogs are killing on average over a 1000 Iranians a year.

Now we see GREAT improvement. Yes we have one of the highest drug addict population in the world, one of the lowest per capita income for a rich country, one of the poorest working population and the cruellest dictatorship after Mugabe

[ali_europe]

The Shah's critics say that SAVAk killed 1000 in 37 years. That is way exaggerated by them although I'd say it was nearer to 100, but what about the great IRI that replaced it and has its supporters even on these forums? They have averaged 500,000 murders since their thefet of the country. Those dogs are killing on average over a 1000 Iranians a year.

Now we see GREAT improvement. Yes we have one of the highest drug addict population in the world, one of the lowest per capita income for a rich country, one of the poorest working population and the cruellest dictatorship after Mugabe

all problems we have today is cuz of SHAH and the foreign powers which supported him....wouldn't they destroy the iranian democracy in 1953 we wouldn't ever having a radicalization in IRAN...

I don't know how old you are, but Shah's goverment got crueler and crueler each year...if you count the number of people being killed in 1950's,60's and 70's by SHAH it would be a huge number...and all that happened as IRAN had a lot smaller population....if Shah would have stayed on on power, till today he would need to kill and jail thousends more to stay on power .....

IRI is not a great government, but the iranian revolution was necessary to finish the control by foreign powers and their puppets.... sadly mullahs took advantage of the chaos and took the power after revolution and created their own dictatorship, but that only happened cuz Shah has killed so many true patriots, that till 1970's all democratic movements got weaker and weaker, so in way SHAH's cruel dictatorship and AMERICAN actions prepared every thing so mullahs could easiely get to power....

I still wonder how naive lot of IRANIANS are to believe SHAH was a good leader........idiots like SHAH and Ghajar kings again and again destroyed any democratic movement in IRAN,and royalists been again and again working as puppets of foreign powers.... that's why we have the today such a mess in IRAN....royalists in IRAN killed people like Amir KHABIR and destroyed Dr. Mosaadegh democracy....else IRAN would become a democracy long time ago........... 

[Afshin]

1953 Coup cannot be forgiven, nor could a puppet put in charge be trusted, Mossadegh would have turned Iran into Japan of the Middle East, a major economic power.

[BrankoWasTheBEST]

Afshin jaan, I am NOT a supporter of Moahmmad Reza Shah, nor do I want to see his son back on the throne, but there is no way I believe in Mossadegh, especially his pretense and antics at the court. I have absolutely no respect for a man that had amongs his supporters and advisers the Iranian NAZI party.

Problem with us is that we think because he was against the Shah, he would be a good man. We saw how Khomeini turned out to be although right from the beginning I was vehemently against this Mullah. We can draw analogies with various other people like Mugabe, Noriega, Aristide, Marcos etc etc. All these people were hailed as liberators and democrats but once in power all they did was plunder and destroy. Same with Mossadegh. How could he keep NAZI and Tudeh together? When he couted them he showed what he truly was but because we did get to see the final outcome we hail his as a great man. I am convinced he would have destroyed Iran.

What we needed was another Reza Shah. A no nonsense man who would build the country, make it strong and hand it over to the people once they were educated and understood the meaning of responsibility of self governing and mutual respect.

[ali_europe]

Afshin jaan, I am NOT a supporter of Moahmmad Reza Shah, nor do I want to see his son back on the throne, but there is no way I believe in Mossadegh, especially his pretense and antics at the court. I have absolutely no respect for a man that had amongs his supporters and advisers the Iranian NAZI party.

Problem with us is that we think because he was against the Shah, he would be a good man. We saw how Khomeini turned out to be although right from the beginning I was vehemently against this Mullah. We can draw analogies with various other people like Mugabe, Noriega, Aristide, Marcos etc etc. All these people were hailed as liberators and democrats but once in power all they did was plunder and destroy. Same with Mossadegh. How could he keep NAZI and Tudeh together? When he couted them he showed what he truly was but because we did get to see the final outcome we hail his as a great man. I am convinced he would have destroyed Iran.

What we needed was another Reza Shah. A no nonsense man who would build the country, make it strong and hand it over to the people once they were educated and understood the meaning of responsibility of self governing and mutual respect.

accusing Mossadegh to allow NAZI's to be among his supporters is very cheap... Jebhe Malli was a people national movement and of course usually in times when a population of a country is uniting to fight against imperialism, lot of people with different ideologies might support the leaders.. do you think it was possible for Dr. Mossadegh in undeveloped IRAN of 1950's with huge poverty to start with researches to see the background of each single supporter he had...
Dr. Mossadegh was a true democrat and real patriot....he even was ready to work with SHAH if Shah would be ready to accept the rule's of democray, but Shah wasn't ready to give up his power and influence...
accusing Mossadegh of having NAZI among his supporter is similar to accusse CYRUS the great of not doing researches if there was among his soldiers anyone, who didn't respect feminism....... and you would expect that to happen in those times?

I mean it is very cheesy and cheap to do judgement of things happened in 1950's by using standards of western societies of 21 th century

Every body who has memories of IRAN's 1950's and believe me, I know lot of those people, would tell you that Dr. Mossadgeh was a true patriot who loved IRAN and freedom....and he had to lead the IRAN national movement in very taff time where IRAN population was small and very uneducated, while our enemies were strong and powerfull

by the way in therm of NAZISM, just remind you one thing.....SHAH and REZA SHAH both had big sympathies for Hitler, but after Hitler lost, Shah switched from being a Hitler fan to be a fan of Brits of Americans cuz he needed their support to stay power

[ali_europe]

oh, actually there is a typing mistake in my last post... I meant every body not every boy

[Afshin]

ali_europe jaan, I corrected your spelling mistake

BWTB Jaan, I have never seen any material evidence that Mossadegh sided up with Nazis or supported them, I have read several books about 1953 and watched many documentaries, I have never seen anything linking Mossadegh to Nazis.

Mossadegh was a true democrat and wanted democracy in Iran, he was not against the Shah or Monarchy at all, but he wanted a British style monarchy where the Shah would be a symbol and the prime minister would run the country and make decisions.  Mossadegh was way ahead of his time, when the first Coup attempt failed on August 15th 1953 Mossadegh refused to execute those behind the coup, he should have killed them all as they were traitors who were backed by CIA, Mossadegh paid the price for his democratic views four days later when the second coup attempt succeeded on August 19th.

Even in those 4 days Mossadegh asked his followers to stay indoor and refrain from acts of violence while CIA backed thugs like Shaboon Beemokh's gang ran riots and vandelised property many claiming to be Mossadegh supporters to give him a bad image, which is why Mossadegh asked his supporters to stay indoor, but this was another mistake, Mossadegh should have armed his supporters and allowed them to kill the CIA backed traitors who were each paid $5 to bring Mossadegh's democratically elected government down, this remains the cheapest coup in CIA history thanks to Iranians' KHODFOROUSHI mentality, Iranians by enlarge tend to love foreigners, its in their nature (KHAREJIPARAST).

Mossadegh nationalised the oil and kicked the British out, the Brits got their revenge by talking the Americans into bringing Mossadegh down, the British mislead the Americans into believing Mossadegh was a communist.  Mossadegh made mistakes too, he should have put down the coup and CIA sponsored riot down by force but he refused to kill fellow Iranians, had he killed the traitor Iranians he would have saved millions of Iranian lives and years of hardship which followed in the late seventies and the whole of eighties in the war.